Curse

swordfisher · Nov 07, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

PvE and PvP

Necromancer

* Vampiric Spirit: recharge time increased to 8 seconds.
* Angorodon's Gaze: recharge time increased to 10 seconds, Energy gain increased to 1..13.
* Vampiric Gaze: recharge time increased to 8 seconds.

PvP Only

Ranger

* Expert's Dexterity (PvP): attack speed increase reduced to 15%, Marksmanship attribute adjustment reduced to +1.

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Really, that's all? I guess I should be glad they have some relevance to gvg, but I was expecting something a little meatier.

ac1inferno · Nov 07, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

I thought it was going to be a bigger skill update. I'm kind of disappointed lol.

Sun Fired Blank · Nov 07, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

On one hand, I'm fairly glad they nerfed expert's dexterity. It was kind of a stupid ranged template and I was getting fairly sick of Debilitating Shot and Keen Arrow.

On the other hand, this probably kicks overall build diversity in the nuts, and that in conjunction with the superbly retarded map rotation means that GvG is probably going to suck for this month.

DarkNecrid · Nov 07, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10

lmao they basically gave up

Icy The Mage · Nov 07, 2008, 05:24 AM // 05:24

more meat in next update, hungry bear must wait

DarkNecrid · Nov 07, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

The next update is not a skill balance update, this is the skill balance for the month. Next week's update is title and PvE related only.

keli · Nov 07, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

nerfed ed, nerfed n/a what do you want more?

DarkNecrid · Nov 07, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by keli

nerfed ed, nerfed n/a what do you want more?

You heard it here folks the game is perfectly balanced, time to get all the old guys who quit playing to play again, they fixed it all now!!!

There's a lot of other broken shit and if you think ED and N/A is the only broken stuff that was left in the game, then I wanna know what you're smoking.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Nov 07, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Problem isn't the state of balance atm, its that the game isn't fun.

Captain Robo · Nov 07, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Quote:

Problem isn't the state of balance atm, its that the game isn't fun.

Truer words have never been spoken. What I wouldn't give to go back to pre-factions era Guildwars.

Krill · Nov 07, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08

I'm glad two of the gayest builds were finally dealt with.

Obviously I'd like to see more but when I think about all the retarded shit Izzy has done this year, which has sent everything besides possibly gvg in a terminal nose dive, maybe he should just stick to the bare minimum.

Jeydra · Nov 07, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32

I am so disappointed with this update. It's been a month ... and Izzy fixes 4 skills?? What the heck?? I wouldn't call the game heavily imbalanced right now but there's also so little variety you can work into builds, and Ensign's prediction that the game will get one-dimensional is chillingly true. Please do something about it? Fixing ED is great and all, but at least add some new variation to the increasingly stale PvP scene?

shoogi · Nov 07, 2008, 11:28 AM // 11:28

I'm actually pretty satisfied with this.
The two most retarded builds, N/As and loldmg rangers, got looked at. N/A still looks playable unfortunately, but ED is fixed, and hopefully won't see any more play. Skills like ED are bad for the game.
And on the other hand-
* No dartboard buffs.
* No skill reworks (after Izzy's past performances with skill reworks I don't wanna hear of those)

Quote:

Problem isn't the state of balance atm, its that the game isn't fun.

Which is a direct result of the state of balance, among other things.

Capua · Nov 07, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Shame about Angorodon's Gaze imo.
but yeah, i'm happy it'll mess the N/A's up slightly.

keli · Nov 07, 2008, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

You heard it here folks the game is perfectly balanced, time to get all the old guys who quit playing to play again, they fixed it all now!!!

There's a lot of other broken shit and if you think ED and N/A is the only broken stuff that was left in the game, then I wanna know what you're smoking.

i think gvg is fine now, or am i missing some new gimmick?

IMMORTAlMITCH · Nov 07, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Problem isn't the state of balance atm, its that the game isn't fun.

Until Rend Enchantments gets properly adressed not much will change.

Unfortunately Izzy doesn't want to nerf rend because he thinks highly defensive builds are 'neat' and nerfing 'offense' leads to less kills! Besides, it's the only reason to get necro secondary and you can spike someone that takes rend damage!

About the update:
ED nerf is nice but the rest of the template is still retarded, especially the spike damage.

Sloth/Keen + Hunter's + Savage under a +damage preparation is insane spike damage, don't need +1-2 marksmanship or an IAS for that even

Blood skills nerf should suffice, I wouldn't mourn a second over them if they'd gotten Smiter's Booned though.

furyow · Nov 07, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordfisher

PvP Only
Ranger

* Expert's Dexterity (PvP): attack speed increase reduced to 15%, Marksmanship attribute adjustment reduced to +1.

Not this!
Well, +2 attribute boost with 'Read the Wind' may have been too much but I was not expecting IAS at 15%, its barely anything.
I think they should link IAS to attribute points 15%-25% (if not 33%) as they did with the Assassin skill.

payne · Nov 07, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

QQ at no nerf to assa-caster

just me or has hero AI got seriously worse after this update?

my heroes wont even follow flags or use macrod skills or anything anymore - and I keep losing to really shit players cause of it wtf? is happening

A-net sort yaself out and actually do a decent job for once...

AI has got worse after this update - heroes dont follow any of my instructions

Molock · Nov 07, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

I have a question.. where are assa-casters used? I watch a lot of GvG and never see them there, play RA and TA and rarely meet them there (and when I do they die awfully fast). I can't imagine them being particularely good in HA.. so yeah?

Edit: Ahh, thanks for clearing that up Payne. Now that I think about it I can see how they may be on the strong side. And yeah, I never even bothered trying HB

payne · Nov 07, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molock

I have a question.. where are assa-casters used? I watch a lot of GvG and never see them there, play RA and TA and rarely meet them there (and when I do they die awfully fast). I can't imagine them being particularely good in HA.. so yeah?

u'v never HB

assa-caster r the most ovrpowered build in HB IMO